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Wizard motor take apart

I am taking apart a wizard 5 hp wd3 model. How does the top part of the motor come off please help

Re: Wizard motor take apart

It is likely you are referring to a component more commonly called the flywheel.
Perhaps not, so can you tell us more and if you can please post picture(s)
It would help frame response to your question to know something about your
mechanical background, the overall condition of WD3 and what is or is not
in your tool inventory. Your WD3 is a pretty decent first project.
If need be I can make and email pictures to illustrate technique(s)
Louis

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I'm new to this stuff I received the motor from an older friend for free but the spark plug won't spark, so I'm trying to get access to the wiring and coils.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll174/nathan_edwards4/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdt20wrev.jpg
I'm not sure if this is how to post pictures.

Re: Wizard motor take apart

Okay your situation is now clear. Postwar Kiekhaefer (Mercury) made Wizards
WD3 may have rope plate secured by an acorn nut or some have 3 screws. Magneto can be one of several brands Wico, Bendix or possibly Phelon. Wico flywheel is die cast the Bendix and Phelon are steel.
All are removed by use of a tool which has screws to attach puller to the flywheel and a large screw that bears on the end of the crankshaft (it is important to protect thread with a 7/16" Fine Thread nut during removal of flywheel.
A few thoughts to keep in mind...when you attach tool to flywheel screw them
in no less than the thickness of the flywheel BUT no more than thickness of
flywheel...a)so you do not pull threads out b) so you do not damage coil
When you apply force by screwing in the central screw STOP when you have
it snug or a little more...Using a soft mallet whack the end of the forcing
screw ONCE...the flywheel may come loose OR it may not.
I have found by trying a number of different methods one that works and
requires no magic...warm up the join of crankshaft stub and flywheel center
so that it is warm enough to melt candle wax...the wax melts and is drawn
into the joint and releases flywheel to crankshaft lockup.

NOTE: The flywheel hub and crankshaft have a matching taper to lock the
two components together...it has to be free of all wax,oil dirt or anything
else to work AND torque of fasteners has to be to factory spec.
Bendix points are left full open when installing flywheel. Points are set
after flywheel is installed. Cam is part of flywheel hub.
Propane torch or hairdryer on high ok for flywheel heating.

Keep in mind the least force method generally is going to do the job most
of the time...IF gentle does not work STOP and think before doing
something with the bigger hammer or wrench...too much of a good thing
makes low value scrap out of expensive to replace parts.
Louis

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I've got the rope plate off, I'm stuck on getting access to the motor plate where all of the wiring is located.
http://s288.photobucket.com/user/nathan_edwards4/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdt20wrev.jpg.html
Does it have to do with the small slit by the center screw that is apart of the crank shaft.

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Flywheel and crankshaft are KEYED together by key and keyway...to orient
cam on flywheel to crankshaft....so ignition spark event happens when piston
is at or near top of stroke.
Check your email and let me know if you accept
Louis

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I got the flywheel off and the magneto isn't producing a spark on the spark plug, I need a new one I'm assuming, how do I get access to one and what's the cost, I have compression I have fuel, all I nned is spark

Re: Wizard motor take apart

I would clean the contacts on the points first before assuming a bad coil. The second thing to check would be the condenser. the third would be the coil. Most of the time it is corrosion on the points.
By the way, the WD3 is a 3.2hp motor.

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The wiring coming from the condenser and the magneto and the spark plug are rotted

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http://store.oldmercs.com/product_p/396-648.htm

Spark plug wire is standard copper stranded core 7mm wire found on eBay and sold by the foot.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parts-Unlimited-Spark-Plug-Wire-7mm-Copper-Core-Stranded-Conductor-7MMCW-/380977553909?hash=item58b40821f5&vxp=mtr

Re: Wizard motor take apart

You may have an OK coil now if there is no cracking on the insulation of it. Rotten wires can be clipped and new wires soldered on, or if core of wire is OK, use heat shrink tubing over cracked wire insulation.

other parts you may need (4 pages)
http://store.oldmercs.com/category_s/87.htm

I have a WD3 and I love it. Good little motor if taken care of.

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I sure appreciate your help

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This is an image of the motor plate, there are two holes in the rubber coil ( is this a magneto or a coil starter). I will need new spark plug wire and the wiring coming from the coil is in bad shape,
I'm not sure how to know whether I need a new condenser or a new eisman pointer part. Now I'm pretty sure I will buy a new coil because of the small holes you see in this image...[/URL]
Now will be able to reuse the metal magets( I'm assuming they are magnets) that are inserted in the coil and how do I get it off properly?

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From what I can see of rest of your WD3 it looks to need a major cleaning
which brings up question of condition...no sense putting new shoes on a dead
horse. A bad crankshaft or piston would be a game stopper as they are unique
to singles and hard to come by.
Coil might be checked out by small engine repair shop for a small fee.
Nothing saves money like not buying things not needed. Coil is a $50 bet.
At a meet a couple weeks back noticed someone had brought in a clean looking
magneto plate with a new coil. Curious that I am I asked about it and was told it was a NEW BAD coil. I did not ask if it was NOS or current
reproduction...at a large meet a few years back a vendor had a
large trailer loaded with New Old Stock from a Mercury dealer...including a large assortment of of Eisemann coils...not knowing their application I passed. Vendor had no idea of applications but prices were right.
Louis

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I'm determined so I bought the parts needed, once I get it back together when the parts get in then I will send you an update

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The black donut shaped part is the coil...the metal portion is called lamination
or core. Lamination/Core part is positioned so portion that faces out to inside
of flywheel is very close. This is so magnet embedded in rim of flywheel gives maximum effect in creating ignition spark.The coil may be held on by a clip
and tight fit. IF coil is junk I open up vise jaws enough to clear lamination
core and use a dowel and hammer to drive the lamination/core out of coil.
Some coil designs include lamination with replacement coil (Bendix Others?)
and some designs make the lamination/core as an integral part of magneto
plate (Phelon) It appears that Phelon machines the magneto plate with the
lamination/core installed to obtain close fit...no separate part number for
components only for assembly.
Not the most vital information perhaps but learned the hard way.
Louis

Good idea to mark lamination with permanent marker to show how it was
oriented just in case. Mr. Murpy's Law states that when there are two
ways to do something the odds favor the wrong way.

Re: Wizard motor take apart

I'm not sure how the water pump is on the motor, I'm hesitant on taking the motor apart in fear of damaging the crank shaft or the cylinder

Re: Wizard motor take apart

Strike the word FEAR from your vocabulary. Once you have that out of the way
you are ready for adventure. There is nothing you can break that can not be
replaced. The odds are that you will not do motor any harm. In any case the
magneto is toughie...the rest is take it apart, clean it up and put it back
together again.
Take a look at the Mercury K2 Parts in a Bin project pictures. No matter how
rough a project looks it can turn out well AND I got a free bin and cover
to boot.
Louis

Re: Wizard motor take apart

Here's what I think Louis is talking about:
http://www.wizardoutboardforum.com/Howto.html

lower unit pics
http://www.wizardoutboardforum.com/LowPics.html

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What has mixture do I need to use for the 1946 wd3; I've heard different things

Re: Wizard motor take apart

Original ratio was 3/8 pint per gallon using lube oil available back then.
Current TCW-3 outboard oil is an improved purpose made product.Using the
original ratio is probably a little conservative but will do no harm.
Brands with an outboard makers name on label may be better than others.

Use the good stuff, use enough of it and move on to bigger questions.
Louis

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I run 32:1 gas/oil ratio in mine with Penzoil TCW-3 or 2cycle oil and haven't had any problems. It seems I read that 2-cycle oil has better lubrication at hotter temperatures and may be better for the air cooled Wizards. 24:1 if you are worried. I wouldn't go any leaner than 32:1 and the more oil you put in, the more rainbows you get on the water behind the boat. Never use straight motor oil like they used to do back in the day.

The general instructions for the WD-4S motor found here work pretty well for the WD3 motor also.

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Does the wd3 wizard 1946 even have a water pump? I read something about older motors being air cooled.

Re: Wizard motor take apart

Check out the lower unit pictures on this site. All of the early K Models
has water pumps although of three different designs. Post war KD Mercury
and WD,WF and WG models have the third design.
There are air cooled outboards such as the prewar Bendix and postwar models
made by a number of makers and sold under various brands.
Louis

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The short answer to nate's question is yes. Don't crank it out of water.

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I can't get the prop off I've done it a couple of days of go and it came out without a problem. The second time around I have taken out 4 screws but it won't come off.

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Four Screws? Please explain.
Prop is held on prop shaft by the acorn nut on end of prop shaft.
Corrosion is not likely issue if you have removed prior.
Did you find a washer and rubber bushing under the acorn nut?
Often the washer has been replaced with a standard washer which
has too large a diameter which can be jammed into recess at rear of
propeller and cause a problem to remove. That may/may not be the issue.

To combat corrosion preventative maintenance called for grease to be
applied to prop shaft anytime prop or water pump was service or annually.
Seldom done if my experience is any indication.

Louis

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I'm attempting to clean the water pump and I removed 4 screws around the prop area that are the pump/prop onto the lower unit of the outboard. There is a slight opening between the water pump and the lower when I remove the screws but it won't come out readily. Did I possibly reassemble the water pump/prop back on incorrectly by not lining something up correctly. If that's the case then I'm screwed. The crank shaft is still moving when the prop is moved which gives me hope that I didn't break it. The new coil came in today so I plan on a test run tommorow.

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I put the new coil in today and the ohms meter is transferring electricity but there is no spark, what are some possible issues?

Re: Wizard motor take apart

It would be helpful to see picture as I can't see what you are saying regarding
the water pump/gear case/prop shaft/prop difficulty. I have been called dense.

The brass plug in gear case is almost always fused to aluminum gear case by
corrosion. If stuck best to leave it be.

Louis