thanks jean, last year i caught the Sky bus from Glasgow. i will look at train cost LPL/GLSGW it may help. the Nat. Express to GLGW is ok xept i only had 10-15 min in hand to make it, a bit close. i have also looked at travel for wednesday, alas no different. i may have heard the review, there was just so many and my wife kept asking how much longer do they continue. thanks for the pointers, i will persevere.