Hi Andrede -

According to the site http://www.indigogroup.co.uk/edge/Toothill.htm
then toot hills could be artificial mounds, and used as lookout points. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?

- David -

My grandmother (we called her 'Mother', maybe a Corless thing) used to refer to things as "downt Gillacre".
She was born in 1898 and was a mine of information. Sadly died in 1995.

Andrede

Town: Stubshaw Cross

Hi in reply to your gillacer ****** it was called this because old farmer pimblett was to tight to pay his workers in money so he paid them with a gill of ale and as most of the workers live there the name stuck this is true because the tight old sod was my husband great great grandfather ann

Town: ashton in makerfield

Hi Ray

Do you mean www.old-maps.co.uk?

I think the area marked as Town Green is a general area not just a field. Note that Town Green factory is in the area. Also like I said in a previous post that Rose Cottages was in the area called Town Green.
Maybe we should set up an Ashton History group?

Regards

Andrede

Town: Stubshaw Cross

Thanks for the info everyone (and there's no need for feightin...)
Personally I am not convinced by any of the maps referred to that the 'Town Green' they show is anything other than a name for a general area or district. Perhaps the History Shop will have a larger-scale old map showing actual fields etc.

Hi Ann

Would I be right in saying that Cottoms shop was the late Jamesons/co-op?

I am not convinced by the map. Looks like it denotes a general area. Do you have any solid proof Ray?

Not sayin I dont believe you but I just like to know for sure. You know what Im like with facts :)

My mother used to refer to Golborne Rd as 'Merica Lane' or 'America Lane'. Any one heard of this before?

Andrede

Town: Ashton

Andrede. 99% of history is someone elses version of how it was to them or how it was passed down to them.
A bit like Chinese whispers if you like. Solid proof is extremely hard to get as you know but hopefully Ann will come back and at least confirm what I saw on the 1849 map. However I have a copy of a bond of covenant relating to a certain piece of land made between Lord Gerard and John Launder and signed and sealed on 20th. June 1634.
Now that`s what I call solid proof..

Town: Stubshie

For ages I have thought that Smithy Brow was in between Town Green and Stubshaw Cross , I think I have been digging in the wrong place.

The 1841 census states:
" All that part of Ashton comprising Smithy Brow,all the Town Green Gillacre, Wallaces Nook and part of Long Lane as far as the town division extends."

I think I have been coming from the wrong end of Bolton Rd. DOH !

Perhaps Smithy Brow was the part of Bolton Rd near the presidential before Town Green.

Andrede

Town: Ashton

I think you will find that 100% of history actually happened. If I have no evidence then I dont believe. I know this maybe frustrates you Ray and others but thats the only way I can work. What frustrates me is supposition and lack of factual evidence. MAKE me believe you Ray.

Your friend

Andrede

Town: Ashton

The address for old maps is www.old-maps.co.uk
Type in a post code for the area, click on Address then search e.g. type in WN4 8TJ. Click through the post codes and house numbers until you get an address for the area then click View Map. Once you find the map there are some good control boxes at the bottom, the Enlarged View button is especially useful.

Vic

Your 95% correct Vic but WN4 8TJ is MY postcode and you won`t find ¬Town Green` behind my house;; You will have to move the centering to Ann`s house on Bryn Rd. South.

Town: Stubshie

Hello Ray,

Apologies for using your postcode, I used it as an example from your earlier posting and hoped that interested parties would use the navigation keys to search the map.

Best regards
Vic

Town: Bryn

Why are the posts not coming on in chronological order?

Andrede

Town: Ashton

I presume it depends on whether someone is responding to the original question, or whether they are responding to a response. The sequence is shown in threaded style, but is not chronological in board style.

Occasionally the system has glitches as well. Sometimes a message doesn't appear for a day or two. Fortunately that only happens infrequently.