>>"By Indenture , bearing date 5th August 1720, Roger Rosbotham, in consideration of £115, conveyed to John Atherton, James Orrell, Thomas Richardson, Thomas Low and William Chadwick, and their heirs, two closes of land in Ashton, called the Two Stubshaws, containing by estimation four acres"

Were these the trustees of the Charity at that time? I'd appreciate it if you'd email me the source, Andrede. Or better still, post it here, as I think it valuable to gather together information on local history.

- David -

Town: dm@aimi.org.uk

Hi DM ,

I presume that the people mentioned are the Trustees. The excerpt is from The Charity Commision Lancashire 1908 Vol.3 available to view in the History shop Wigan.

Ray?

If John Launder “presented the Two Stubshaws to the benefit of the Poor of Ashton”
Then how could it be sold by Roger Rosbotham 28 years later?

Re: "By Indenture , bearing date 5th August 1720, Roger Rosbotham, in consideration of £115, conveyed to John Atherton, James Orrell, Thomas Richardson, Thomas Low and William Chadwick, and their heirs, two closes of land in Ashton, called the Two Stubshaws, containing by estimation four acres"

The above clearly ( IMHO ) says that the land was sold by Roger Rosbotham to the trustees?

Interwesting...

Andrede

Town: butz65@blueyonder.co.uk

I looked up some words that may help.

1. Convey or conveyance =(the legal process of transfering land or property).

2. In Consideration =(as payment or recompense for

Andrede

Town: butz65@blueyonder.co.uk

Hi Andrede. I said all along it was a paper sale by Lord Gerard.its just another piece in the jigsaw,
Rosbottom was employed by Lord Gerard as a farmer and he would have been ploughing those fields in those 28 years so to try and legitimise the sale they took the view that possession was 9 points of the law.

If he owned the land in the first place why would he sell it to a charity and then spend the rest of his life paying rent to use it?
The fact remains that Lauder made a covenant to the poor on that land and the deeds still show that the covenant remains to this day(Page 4 0n the copy that Ian gave me)Ray

Town: rayday505@talktalk.net