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Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

Maybe if I could get backing and support from the AHRA, I could plant bulbs or something around certain areas of the heath, then distribute a leaflet making the residents aware of this.
Surely this would deter the annoying parkers.?

Andrede

Town: butz65@blueyonder.co.uk

Re: Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

Hi -

Because of the special nature of the heath (see the website) it wouldn't be appropriate to plant bulbs there. At the moment part is being reseeded with heather, and the aim is to encourage native heathland grasses and heathers.

However, your offer to distribute an information leaflet could be helpful. Why not consider joining AHRA? It's only £1 a year, and your support would be helpful. The Chair is David Forsyth and he lives at No. 11 Ashton Heath.

- David -

Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

ermm wehave four cars. one is parked in the back yard and two live at the front of the house. the van cant be parked anyone else, and the heath where it is being parked is now turning into mud because a member of the public(im not sure whether she was a member of A.H.R.A) complained, calling my father a vandal for puttingout broken bricks to stop it turning too muddy,so he stopped and now its going worse. no the car cant be parked anywhere else as it would cause major inconvinience to many people. one caring person tried to stop the heath becoming to ugly and muddy and someone complained! thats gratitude for you1 (i am !NOT! biased!!!!!) by the way where we prk is about halfway down ashton heath road

please e-mailme, i prefer it
thanks,
danny

Town: locotwistedbastard@hotmail.co.uk

Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

Hello Danny ,

I am sure that the broken bricks really added to the beauty and natural history of the Heath.

However, can I bring the following to your attention :

"Under section 59 of the Police Reform Act 2002, the police have the power of arrest if they have reasonable grounds for believing that:
(a) the motor vehicle contravenes Section 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (as above)

(b) it is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public."

It is quite clear from the number of complaints , that parking on the Heath is causing "distress or annoyance" to many residents of the Heath community.

I am not a member of the AHRA , but I still care about the area in which I live.
After all the hard work the AHRA did on the Heath , surely we can give them some respect and not treat the Heath as a car park??

Andrede

Town: butz65@blueyonder.co.uk

Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

It's also against the bye-laws affecting the heath. Churning up the heath and fly-tipping rubbish there is not only illegal, unsightly and damaging to the heathland, but it risks damaging the machinery when the heath is mowed to maintain its heathland nature.

I find it very frustrating that a minority of people treat the heath as their dog's toilet, parking space, or litter bin, thus helping to destroy a local habitat that is actually quite rare. I'm sure they don't see it that way, but if they would only take a little time to research what a valued area the heath is (environmentally, and as an amenity for us and our children and their children) they might understand why some of us are so protective of it.

Tonight some nitwit has parked his lorry and trailer on the heath. Thankfully members of the residents' association are willing to report those who abuse this local amenity for their own selfish purposes.

- David -

Re: Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

I'm sorry but it was obvious from the minute the work on the heath started that this would happen. It's only a wonder that the gypsies haven't moved in since it's now nice and flat for them to get their vehicles on.
Also, and again I'm sorry to those who disagree, the heath is now far from the natural beauty it has always been. The destruction of the wild plants and the flattening of the area has turned it into a soulless mess.
It was always a wonder to take my children to the heath and spot wild flowers and shrubs and play at getting "lost" in the long grass. What a pity it's now the way it is.

Town: jmnw0723@blueyonder.co.uk

Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

Please point out which heathland flowers have been 'destroyed'. The natural heathland plants are still there, although expecting them to bloom in March is not very realistic. I too remember the heath as it was, with the plastic bags and bottles trapped in the long grass.

What was happening before local residents took an interest in looking after their environment was that the natural heathland plants were being crowded out by small trees, nettles, rosebay willowherb and long coarse grasses to the extent that the area was turning into scrubland. Not to mention the rubbish that was being dumped there and the holes dug. Almost one thousand hours have been put in by volunteers with advice from Wigan Council and BTCV, and it is dispiriting to see you disparaging their efforts.

If you take some time to search on the internet regarding heathland management hopefully you may then better understand the purpose of the work.

- David -

Re: Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

by law, you are allowed to park 10 feet into any land, if it is next to a road if that land is not paved, fenced or obstructing a public footpath. we have kept well within that, and we are the only people who complained about someone driving about 20 foot into the heath and parking their van 20 foot in. none of these would have happened if the heath haden't been mowed and it would be muddy if there had't been weedkiller sprayed on to the heath. it has never happened before, why now?
thanks,
danny

Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

Dont be so down J . :)

The residents association are doing their best to look after the Heath and restore its natural flora and fauna . Lets look to the future. If we can stop people treating the Heath as a tip , dog toilet and car park then we can all enjoy it once more . Maybe you should consider joining the AHRA . Everythings not lost.

Andrede

Town: butz65@blueyonder.co.uk

Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

Yes, you've hit it exactly. The critics of work on the heath contribute nothing to its maintenance, and will not join the residents' association to move things forward.

- David -

Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

Hello Danny ,

As DM has previously explained , the work on the Heath is to keep it as a "Heath". DM explained :" the natural heathland plants were being crowded out by small trees, nettles, rosebay willowherb and long coarse grasses to the extent that the area was turning into scrubland."

Its not just an environmental issue , I and other residents ( not just members of the AHRA ) would like to see the Heath as place thats nice to look at and go for walks ! And take interest in the wildlife.

The AHRA must be shocked and dispirited by the lack of respect that has been shown for their hard work.

All Im asking is for you to not park on there. Is this such an unreasonable request?

As for the by-laws , the police have the power to arrest if the vehicle is causing annoyance...which it clearly is ... to a lot of people.

Lets look after what we have.

Andrede

Town: butz65@blueyonder.co.uk

Re: Dont Park on the Heath please.

double yellow lines?

Town: brightspark300463@yahoo.co.uk