Hi David (Moderator of this Forum)

I wish to respond to your comments as follows:

"Messages are deleted if they contain personal abuse of contributors (I have made an exception in the past in the case of CAP aggression, as I feel it is beneficial if people can see demonstrations of their hatred)."
This is an unwarranted attack on the Community Action Party and a further transparent demonstation of your political bias and the purpose and agenda for which you use this website, as exemlified by the derogatory comments on your home page.

"They are also deleted if they consist mainly of chunks of copied diatribes."
This is an insult to the world respected John Pilger, whose boots some will never be fit to lick.

"It seems strange that one of the main conributors is the leader of the CAP. Sad, but true."
Perhaps I should be flattered to be considered as one of the main contributors but since I hardly ever post on here I just think that its a sad relection on your lack of appeal. Just take a look at how many posts you have had in the past six months.

"CAP have made determined efforts to oppose this site,"
This is a blatant lie. The Community Action Party have never tried to close this site, just to expose it's political bias and to remove the Council link.
The Community Action Party website does not have a link from the Council website so why should your politically biased website have a link either?
Council Officers took the decision to remove the link because they read your politically motivated diatribes against the Community Action Party.

"The original Community Forum attempted to bring together people of all political persuasions "
Founders of the original Community Forum included New Labour supporters hacks and stooges. As soon as it's Chairperson, Don Hodgkinson, was elected as a Community Action Party Councillor he was hounded out of office.

"Would that the present local political regime could rise to the same standards."
As a point of information the present local political regime is Stalinist New Labour - but hopefully not for much longer.

In conclusion, you are truly a legend in your own imagination. If you close this forum, or even the whole stagnant website, hardly anyone will notice or care.

Best wishes

Peter

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

Peter,

To quote you:

"since I hardly ever post on here I just think that its a sad relection on your lack of appeal."

Utter rubbish. Pure nonsense. You (sadly) are one of the principal posters on here. If this website is so rubbish, stop coming on, and let us all finally be free of your antagonistic bile.

To quote you again:

"politically motivated diatribes against the Community Action Party"

You frequently engage in politically motivated attacks, in fact all your postings do just that. So don't be such a hypocrite.

And again:

"Founders of the original Community Forum included New Labour supporters hacks and stooges."

Your language is that of a tabloid journalist Peter. If you mean that people on the Community Forum were also members of the Labour Party, you are correct. Why say it in such a sensationalist way? Can we now refer to CAP members as "Franzen's stooges and hacks" too? Grow up.

The penultimate quote:

"As a point of information the present local political regime is Stalinist New Labour - but hopefully not for much longer."

Thanks for that insight Peter, again cloaked in sensationalist language that a Sun reporter would be proud of. Whatever you think about New Labour (and I don't think much of them), to call them Stalinist is an insult to the millions of people who did actually suffer and die under a Stalinist regime. Again, grow up Peter. You sound like a sixth former, and an ill-disciplined, ill-informed one at that.

And the final quote from you (hope you can keep up):

"In conclusion, you are truly a legend in your own imagination. If you close this forum, or even the whole stagnant website, hardly anyone will notice or care"

Postings from the moderator of this site are infrequent. Yours are all over the place like an embarrasing rash, and are never constructive or relevant. You seek party leadership and office, the moderator doesn't. I wonder who really is the legend of his own imagination? If no-one notices or cares about this website, WHY THE HECK DO YOU GET SO WOUND UP ABOUT IT?!

Kind regards,
Matt

Hi Matt

With regard to your comment "WHY THE HECK DO YOU GET SO WOUND UP ABOUT IT?!" I'm not the one who is getting wound up and shouting.

Best wishes

Peter

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

Oh please...

Hi Everyone,
I must agree that there is a concerted effort to destroy the CAP. I think this is very sad as the end result will be a reversal to a one party council.

Any one reading this website and message board in particular titled Chat about matters relating to Ashton, will very soon realise that there is some one constantly posting, masquerading as the leader of the CAP. I think he is an undercover agent for New Labour and appeal to anybody who values democracy to expose him for what he is, a "fifth collumist".

When he is disgaraced we then can use this site for what it was intended.

Best Wishes
The Spy Catcher (MI6.5)

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

Hi Alan

Why don't you make the efoort to post a constructive comment on this forum intead of making idiotic statements and indulging in personal attacks?

It's not difficult to see why this forum lacks appeal.

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

Hi Peter,
Once again I bow to your superior intelect, and will post a constructive comment, in fact a few.
1If as you say this forum lacks appeal, it is because you have hijacked it for your rather childish comments.

2 Why when you are asked a question regarding Ashton do you ask the person to ask their ward councillor? Is it because they arethe people with the interests of Ashton to the fore? And the correct persons to ask?
As the question is some what rhetorical I will assume the answer is yes, then why despite your protestions to the contary do you keep posting to this forum when it does not directly concern you and it lacks appeal?

3 If you dissaprove of this forum and find it so lacking in appeal surely the wisest course of action would be to ignore it and letit die a natural death.

4 Will you turn your vitriol on the hard working members of the CAP when they boot you into touch?

5 I and others have asked you repeatedly to stop using this forum in the way you do. I willingly admit that the members of the CAP did the people of Wigan a service by returning democracy to our borough. Can you not see that even people like myself who have never voted Labour in their life will do so next time if YOU do not stop insulting them.

6 You can either reply as is the norm and insult me, as a voter, or ignore it as you some times do and start another irrelevent posting. OR hopefully see that I am not attacking the CAP and like many other people am just tired of you irrelevent postings.

7 So here are just a few topics the CAP inherited from Labour in Ashton.

a The chaos caused by Tesco and Aldi.
b Housing without infrastructure.
c Gridlock at rush hours
d Numerous Grot Spots
e excessive licensed premises
f A serious youth problem

Many of these matters are being dealt with by your collegues whilst you behave like Nero and fiddle while Rome burns or should that be post while Ashton burns?

If you can be constructive I look forward, if it is to be the usual insult to the voters please do not press POST.

regards
Alan

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

Hi Alan

Your latest post remains true to the title of this topic.

Why dont you post something positive for a change?

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

"post something positive for a change".How about the 'Leader' of the official opposition on Wigan Council setting an example,for a change.

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Why has it taken you a week to come up with that pathetic post?

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

CAP..blahh! i'd rather die.

CAP should be attacked. Their whole idea is all face and no action. By this i mean yeah sure they will be there and listen but what happens afterwards? nothing.
They talk about it but dont take on board what others are saying. Quite ironic: COMMUNITY ACTION party, their 'community' is those within the party themselves and i think the whole town is yet to see action.