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I don't know why I am bothering to reply really, I have not misunderstood the question,"Name one good local Labour Councillor".(copied and pasted)Now you move the goal posts and ask for a local one.
You constantly attack New Labour but then procede to behave like Tony Blair and change the question when you get an answer you don't like.
I named Michael Winstanley and Paul Tushingham for balance. Incidentaly Michael Winstanley is Ashton born and bred.
Are we now to expect your petty sniping because he represents Orrell. To put it bluntly if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I don't think anyone wants to attack you to start with, but you seem bent on attacking anyone who does not think the CAP should rule the world.
As to your second point, I have and other people have raised points re Ashton, we await your replies.
Alan

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

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Hi Alan
I dont recall ever mentioning "18 years of a labour government" or "a despicable attack on the new Pope at at the council meeting".
Can you please claify?
Try not to repeat New Labour spin without first taking the trouble to establish the facts.

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

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I refer the honorable memeber to his posting on May 23, 05 - 1:56 PM.
I remainyour obedient servant
Alan

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

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Hi Peter,
I have annswered your first question in another posting.
As regards "New Labour" spin, I think it is apparent from my postings as regards my political affiliation I am definately a "Crossbencher".
Information regarding the despicable attack on the new Pope was obtained from many sources.
I await your reply.
But before you do I must state what is apparent from the information available, the actions of Pope Benedict 16 when he was a teenager in Facist Germany to avoid being an active member of the Hitler Youth took extreme courage. Courage I am sure he will carry forward as the head of the Roman Catholic Church.
As for my Christianity I enjoy the fellowship of all denominations.
May God Bless You

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

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HI ALAN WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR ALLEGATION?

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

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Hi Peter.
Please don't answer a question with a question, leave that to the poloticians, oh I forgot you are one?
The previous posting does not need any explanation I am sure.
Regards
Alan

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

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HI ALAN WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR ALLEGATION?

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

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Hi Peter
Allegation, WHAT ALLEGATION, I asked gave you the opportunity to expalain the reported remarks you made regarding the new Pope in a council meeting.
If you were misquoted go ahead and tell us.
Kind Regards
Alan

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

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Your unwarranted allegation was: "perhaps you can explain your despicable attack on the new Pope at at the council meeting."
Do you know actually what was said or are you just a parrott for New Labour's mudslingers?

Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com

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Hi Peter
Once again this does not concern "Matters relating to Ashton"
To answer your question firstly, no I am not a parrot for New or Old labour mudslingers. I have heard expressions of dissaproval of what you are "alledged" to have said from all three of the other parties on Wigan council and ceryain memebers of the CAP asked could they be disassociated from your commets.I then said, if you have been misquoted can you explain, or words to that effect.
As an elected represenative, please do not say "you have no need to explain" YOU chose to stand, and in doing so put yourself in a position that makes you accountable for what you say.
So here Peter is your opportunity to put the record straight.
THEN CAN WE REVERT TO MATTERS AFFECTING ASHTON,enough smke screens!!
Alan

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

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Hi Peter,
Just looking again at you reply, you say I did not name a local labour councillor. Was that meant to be your sense of humour? Or din't the leader of the CAPknow we have a one party state in Ashton, nothing much changes.
Alan

Town: ajames46@fsmail.net

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Town: peter.franzen@community-action.com