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Re: Wrong ball holed out in Foursomes (after marking)
Thanks for replies.
DC - the actual result makes no difference; 2 & 1 is actually the correct score if the result of the hole involving the wrong ball is reversed. It would only have been 4&1 if there had been no reversal.
The match went up the 17th just in case the result had to be changed for the hole in question - which, of course, it was when the correct Rules interpretation was reached
Re: Wrong ball holed out in Foursomes (after marking)
Dear Doug,
Match play is dog-eat-dog, even though we all want to share a drink afterwards.
Someone must claim a result for the hole. No later claim may be considered unless it is based on facts previously unknown to the player making the claim and he had been given wrong information by an opponent.
Re: Wrong ball holed out in Foursomes (after marking)
Hi all,
At the finish of the 14th hole the players didn't know how to score and agreed to consult the committee.
The Committee should Rule that:
A&B lost the 14th hole and are at that point 1 down;
They win the 15th hole and are then all square;
They win the 16th hole and now are 1 up;
They then win the 17th hole and they are 2 up with one hole to play. A & B win 2 and 1, or 2/1
Re: Wrong ball holed out in Foursomes (after marking)
I thought the point of this question was that the players DID NOT involve the committee and ask for a ruling but came to an agreement amongst themselves that the result was 4&1.
If they DID seek the committee ruling then yes of course Johanna is right.
Re: Wrong ball holed out in Foursomes (after marking)
David,
Part of the original question said:
The 4 players are unsure of procedure and agree to continue and to clarify later; all 4 agree that A & B are 1 up but that that could change when the Rule is clarified.
I assume that meant that they asked a committee member or RO later on.
Re: Wrong ball holed out in Foursomes (after marking)
Hello All
As the original poster, may I add to and extend this discussion?
The Committee decided that A & B won 2 & 1 because:
a) All 4 players had agreed to refer the incident.
b) An "extra" hole had been played in case the result of Hole 14 was reversed.
What would have been the outcome if the extra hole had not been played and the result of Hole 14 had been reversed? The match would then have "ended" with A & B 1 up with 2 holes to play? Would the result have stood? Would the match have to be replayed? I can't find a Rule/Decision to cover this eventuality.
Re: Wrong ball holed out in Foursomes (after marking)
Hi Ron
The playing of the extra hole allowed for the reversal of the result of Hole 14 should this have been necessary - and it was! If the extra hole had not been played and Hole 14 was reversed, then the match would have been left in limbo. All this is only relevant because the players agreed that the issue would be resolved when the match was completed. Once Player A had declared the possible problem, then it could always be an issue in deciding the outcome of the match.
I'm also looking forward to the new forum! I'm beginning to find the finer points of the Rules fascinating.