oldtimer

Jun 9, 08 - 8:14 AM

Mimi's adventure or should I say

misadventure.1st I'm not one ever to say "I told you so" to anyone.The very 1st thing I would to is have a complete medical check-up.Remember they screw for a living and Jamaica is the highest rate of aids/hiv outside Haiti in the western hemsphere.It takes years to show up so get a jump start on it.Comparsion..if you dated a hockey player would you be surprised if he had a couple of teeth missing ??? It's the price of admission.
After working there and living there for so long it absolutely amasses me that this happens.It happens to lovely educated people, that's the biggest surprise.Are the men from their own countries so bad they have to resort to a beach bum ,living in a cardboard box gigglo the best possible choice ???
It's a far cry from being the same age and doing things together and having things in common other than your groins...hehehe. How many date teachers,doctors,lawyers people with something in common. To say that they are not after your $'s is crazy.The reason they have $'s is because they did some very successful screwing before (the proverbiable you)came along.If you don't have any education and your working at a hotel raking leaves... and you have lots of bling on...just think about it !!! would you date that "job" here in North America?? note: there is nothing wrong with working to your capicity.
I'm no DR.Phil (or as my kids say Dr.Full-of-****)
There are many reasons for this I guess.Drug dependece,loneliness,a fling that went bad,low self esteme and I'm not talking about only women here folks, men to.For men it is more in the non-tourist areas where foregin workers are that is where they get caught up in "visa love".Now before Nikki jumps on me, when I was young I had Jamaican girlfriends.I lived and worked in Jamaica for years and years when I was young and I too wanted companionship of the opposte sex to hang out with and to do things with.But 40 years ago was not the same as today... they were my own age ...many,many things have changed.
I wish mimi and all the mimi's the very best in life but if you play in traffic be prepared to get hit by one of the cars on the track.

Suz

Jun 9th, 2008 - 10:30 AM

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Okay, OT - I guess I got here before Nikki, because I am the one going to jump - Your post is so full of assumptions it's appalling - Not every Jamaican is a beach bum, not every Jamaican screws for a living, or is after your $s, not every Jamaican gets their money by screwing a foreign woman -

People see that a woman is involved with a Jamaican man, and automatically assume that that is all that it is - Where did Mimi EVER say that she gave him money? In fact, I think she stayed at his house and thereby saved the hotel costs she would have spent for her trips. Why can't it be just that the man was a liar and a cheat? No one knows the true motivations behind what went on except for the people who were intimately involved in the situation - You can find good people and bad people anywhere in the world - just because a woman falls in love with a Jamaican man doesn't mean he is a gigalo -

For your question about dating a man in the US who raked leaves for a living and would a woman do it - for me, personally, yes I would - because the material status of the individual doesn't matter, it is the heart and soul of who they are that counts. While money is nice, I would happily struggle and count pennies to be with a man that I loved who treated me well and respected me - way before I would suffer through being miserable with a rich man. The heart doesn't see dollar signs, that's the materialistic mind.

I posted in the other thread that I am involved with a Jamaican man - He was going to law school when his son was born, so he dropped out to earn a living and support his son - He has sole custody of the child, owns his own business, house, car, ..... should I turn away from this man because he's a Jamaican, and believe all the stereotypes and apply it to him? Sorry, but it doesn't fit.

While I will never deny that there is a lot of the games / using women that goes on, it's not the ONLY thing that exists in Jamaica -

With any relationship, every individual needs to keep their eyes and minds open - if the warning flags are there, pay attention to them - But people need to stop tarring everyone with the same brush when you don't know all the facts.

oldtimer

Jun 9th, 2008 - 1:32 PM

Suz..

I knew you would reply.Where did I say that is what mimi was doing.The guy raking the leaves I was talking about had the "bling" not just raking leaves.Did I not say it was good to work to your ability..meaning "do something that is there !!!" if it's law school great,if it's raking leaves great.Did I not say that all these ladies are nice and well educated.Did I not mention men in my post..myself included.Since your "way more seasoned than I and much much smarter" how many times while going to a concert has someone come up to you and said"hey pretty lady I'm the producer of the big show at Alfred's/anyplace" would you like to go and then have them ask for the $'s to get in while still having "bling" hang all over them.How in the name of the Lord Christ Jesus could this person possibly have bought this stuff.If you can't see this then you must be blinded by the leaves they are raking...and this is not personal,it's not solely about mimi because I know that both you ladies are lovely as are the others and for kk to join forces with mimi is FANTASTIC !!!!!!! more of the ripped off people should post the pics !!!!But do get medically checked because you guys are the caboose of a long train of "pretty ladies". I seriouly hope that no harm comes to mimi or is there no violence in Jamaica either..just think about Claudia,the lady from Sweden,the lady at the bank,the lady at Treehouse,the lady at Cottontree Place,to name a few.Also look at what happened to Tammy !!!! Oh how are memories are selective !!!!

louise

Jun 9th, 2008 - 2:19 PM

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AMEN Suz!!

Suz

Jun 9th, 2008 - 2:31 PM

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OT, I am not in complete disagreement with you - There are many who get swayed by the island vibe, and overlook the warning signs - A man in the US who raked leaves for a living but had the bling would raise warning flags for me =- My point was more that people most of the time automatically make assumptions - I have been travelling to various locations in the Caribbean for 20 years - Trust me, I have heard the lines, seen the scenarios - But I still believe that it is possible to find the right one - No, it doesn't happen in one trip, and it's not something I go looking for - but it's also not something I am going to turn my back on when I find someone I am compatible with - I have too many friends / relatives who have met the love of their life on vacation and 20 years later, are among the happiest couples I know - Not only from JA - people from France, South Africa, Trinidad, the UK,..... Love happens where love wants to happen.

Trust me, my memory is not selective, and I am fully aware of the runnings and the scene - Negril seems to attract more of it than other areas of the island, although it exists all over. I have also seen good hearted, honest JAs that have been hurt and used by tourists - it's a two way street. I have been given all the lines, from being told that I am the one within the first sentence, you name it I have probably heard it!

I have many Caribbean friends, both here and abroad - I have seen the scams, been witness to the multiple women, etc.... I am not naive to it, and think that people need to walk with their eyes open. I commend Mimi and KK for their handling of the situation, and being open and honest about it - I think that if more women / men were open about it, newcomers would have a better understanding of what they might encounter. Instead, all too often, the cheated on woman / man blames the other party instead of seeing the wrong that their supposed partner is doing.

It's also very different to go on vacation and spend time the way that the tourists do versus going down and living with the locals and spending time their way -

My point was that too many people jump to tar and feather someone who is open about a relationship - Immediately, the assumptions are made (not meaning you, speaking in general), that gifts were given, money given, that love happened in a week, etc.... Each situation is different, and someone who has been hurt by one needs support, not ridicule and judgment as has happened on other sites.

Also - AIDS is not country specific, and does not discriminate - In today's day and age, dating or being intimate with anyone is a scary thing - People need to act like grownups and protect themselves.

oldtimer

Jun 9th, 2008 - 4:33 PM

Suz this is why I like

this board.We can say our piece without killing each other...hehehe She's "a rocky road to Dublin" sometimes eh!

Montie

Jun 9th, 2008 - 2:52 PM

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In my opine, this(the story about Mimi & KK & the guy, as well as the EXHAUSTING thread on Negril.com) is just another one of life's tough lessons learned. It's not about assigning blame on Mimi or the man either(most of us in here have been to JA 'off the beaten path' & have seen the level of poverty & squalor that exists, so you can't really blame somebody for trying to escape that, even if they lie & step on some feelings along the way?) Not limited to JA or Negril or any race, creed, gender, etc.

But, has anyone stopped to consider that this Robert guy might be hung like an elephant?

Sorry,

BBS

Montie

Lola

Jun 9th, 2008 - 3:07 PM

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Montie ~ LOL Believe it or not, there can be TOO much of a good thing!

It was always my impression that Mimi 'checked out' on this guy and distanced herself from him months ago. She was just waiting for the 'test' results to confirm her diagnosis.

Suz

Jun 10th, 2008 - 6:42 AM

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I agree completely OT - We might have different views, but the members of this board are able to debate them in an adult manner - All the difference in the world!

Tammy

Jun 10th, 2008 - 7:09 AM

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Absolutely !!!!

I'm always proud of the way everyone handles themselves here. Families don't act this good.

Tammy

Jun 10th, 2008 - 7:40 AM

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Montie you always find the bright side of things

Amen Lola

CC

Jun 10th, 2008 - 11:43 AM

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I'm glad a lead a boring life!!! LOL

Nikki

Jun 11th, 2008 - 6:06 AM

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Well what have I missed Here???

OT...I know you love when I jump on you,put you in a head lock and give you a "Noogie"

...Good to see some folks got my back when I'm not around...Good lookin' out Suz

Nikki

Jun 11th, 2008 - 6:08 AM

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But, has anyone stopped to consider that this Robert guy might be hung like an elephant?

LMFAO...Montie,I was thinking the same thing...Actually I was thinking "This MoFo must Got "The Magic Stick"

Tammy

Jun 11th, 2008 - 7:09 AM

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Magic tick

jitterbug

Jun 11th, 2008 - 12:46 PM

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too, too funny . . .

ray

Jun 12th, 2008 - 2:34 PM

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funny thing - i see no disagreements, just everyone looking out for one another - good to share the bad and the good - then we can all have a better time when we go! gotta love the humor too!

Marko

Jul 9th, 2008 - 8:50 PM

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have to concur with a lot of you regarding this........think oldtimer hit the nail on da head too...

if you goin to play......you goin to have pay.......

should be interesting what mimi has to say when she returns next week........there have been sightings of her down der...

and mi turn soon come......and mi know betta than to fall into da chit......lol

Cool Runnings,
Marko

Tammy

Jul 10th, 2008 - 7:29 AM

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Not sure you will hear much from MiMi on this subject when she returns but I've been surprised before.

Marko what the hell happened to your little Island? I'm gone 7 years and come back to a place that is barely recognizable. I was sick!! Is this what they have in mind for the Westend? Treasure Island, Indian Rocks Beach, Maderia Beach were all quaint little beach towns with so much character .. now nothing but concrete condo's and people, people, people, and more people. I just couldn't believe my eyes. To me this area was as close to being in Jamaica as one could get but that is sure gone now. Conservation my ass. They planted all that sea grass and weeds, built boardwalks to reach the beach but yet built high rise concrete timeshares right on the beach .. yeah that is some nice conservation Florida has going on.

Only thing I could say is next time I take a trip to Florida I will once again be pulling out the map to try and find another area that hasn't yet been ruined by people and greed.

NotSurprised

Jul 10th, 2008 - 3:01 PM

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"Not sure you will hear much from MiMi on this subject when she returns"

Why's that? I would like to know how the story ends.

Tammy

Jul 10th, 2008 - 4:40 PM

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Call and ask her then. I have heard part of your story from a mutual friend and I've heard her story right here on the WWW and my opinion is if either of you keep him or even concern yourself with him any further then you are only asking for heartache and drama. Secondly I hope neither of you think you were the only two. Not a chance!!! Trust your instincts and move on.

I hate to sound heartless but this guy is a giggalo and he is not going to change his ways even if one of you or someone else gets him out of Jamaica. Once he lands in the States, Canada, or whatever Country he will get around. That is when the pain will be a lot worse. I personally can not handle humiliation and disrespect but if you guys can then go for it.

NotSurprised

Jul 11th, 2008 - 8:45 AM

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Geez!!! I don't know Mimi, have never been in contact with her and couldn't call and ask her. I'm curious what part of my story you've heard and what mutual friend would have shared it. I'm not aware of anyone knowing my story. It actually doesn't matter. I have no intention of further contact with him. What Mimi or any of the other women do is their business. My curiousity, and maybe a little pull of the heart, got the best of me. I thought she may come back to tell the end of the story once he was exposed and what happened on the other side. Respect.

Tammy

Jul 11th, 2008 - 8:56 AM

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I'm sorry I have been thinking you were the other woman who called MIMI and revealed the truth about this guy. I do apologize.

I really don't think we will hear the ending to this story but maybe. I would like the story finished too but I just have a feeling there won't or isn't an end to this one.

Suz

Jul 11th, 2008 - 9:12 AM

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I thought that NS was the third woman to come forward and admit to involvement.

I think that Mimi is open and honest enough that she will come back and share -

NS, I can completely understand the pull of the heart getting to you, but be grateful that you found out what you did when you did - as much as it hurts, better to know than let it progress.

Interesting bit of info - the USCIS is cracking down more on people with multiple petitions filed for them - I know of one man (not in Negril) who was engaged to a woman from the US, they had filed, been approved, and were waiting for an interview - she made an unexpected trip, and found him living with his pregnant JA gf in her house that she had built. She ended things, kicked them out of the house, etc... Found out a few months later that he married another American woman and they filed - His new wife received a letter when she filed her petition, informing her of the multiple petitions that had been filed for her husband.

Tammy

Jul 11th, 2008 - 1:23 PM

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Suz I think they have been sending out those letters informing the petitioner of other filings for at least 4 years now. I know of one that was busted out maybe a little over 4 years ago. He wasn't really busted as he did tell her right after she filed for him because I guess he kinda thought Immigration might.

Suz

Jul 11th, 2008 - 1:25 PM

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Oh, that was the first I had heard of it, thought it was new -

Tammy

Jul 11th, 2008 - 1:54 PM

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Should have always been doing it as people deserve to know the truth about their future husband/wife.

likkle red

Jul 11th, 2008 - 2:00 PM

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have seen Mimi and Robert around over the past month a nd things seem to be just fine with them. i am sure Mimi will fill us all in on what happened and will happen when she returns. She is not one to keep things to herself if it can help others.

Tammy

Jul 11th, 2008 - 2:52 PM

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(have seen Mimi and Robert around over the past month a nd things seem to be just fine with them.)

This is exactly why I don't see us hearing anymore about this story.

(She is not one to keep things to herself if it can help others.)

I really tried to ignore this but I just can't as I gotta know.

How could the story of going back together with this guy possibly help anyone else?
Guess I'm lost as I can't even see the good advice that could possibly come from this.

LR I hope you encourage her NOT to post the ending and how she is back together with him as people will eat her alive and you know it as well as I do. I thimk MiMi is a lot smarter woman than that. She is obviously a woman in love and I wish her the best.

NotSurprised

Jul 12th, 2008 - 9:31 AM

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WoW.

Let me leave this up to karma. Now for a good mental and emotional purge. I swear Jamaica is going to be the death of me.

Tammy

Jul 12th, 2008 - 9:41 AM

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I'm gonna change my name to NotSurprised2 on this thread.

ray

Jul 12th, 2008 - 11:54 AM

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i never saw the thread on n.com...but heard bits and pieces from there and here...i would feel bad for mimi if she got back together with him, but whatever came of it, if not good, would be deserved...seems everyone got enough to know about this guy and if one walks in with open eyes like that, well i can only shake my head.

Nikki

Jul 14th, 2008 - 7:51 AM

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have seen Mimi and Robert around over the past month a nd things seem to be just fine with them.

If this is true it's no other way to put this besides plain Ole STUPIDITY!!!...A Glutten for punishment and as ray said,she deserves everything she gets!

Mike in NH

Jul 14th, 2008 - 11:10 AM

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You said it Nikki , once a fool alaways a fool.

Lola

Jul 14th, 2008 - 9:57 PM

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Well I for one, wouldn't want her to feel chased away from this board by the comments some of you are posting, as in calling her a fool. Maybe she is, maybe not. I am interested in hearing about it from her, since she is the only one who really knows.

ray

Jul 14th, 2008 - 10:20 PM

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good point lola - not tryng to chase anyone awta her...was not trying to be mean at all...it is real easy for us to say...out hearts are not in it...sorry mimi

francesca

Jul 14th, 2008 - 10:32 PM

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"Once a fool, always a fool". Not sure about that--I think most people have been fooled at least once, if not twice, in their lives. But the more life experience you have, the quicker and more openly you pay attention to the red flags, dust yourself off if you 'tripped' for a minute, and keep on with your life.

Whatever happens for Mimi, I wish her the best, whatever that is for her and however she defines it.

Nikki

Jul 15th, 2008 - 4:46 AM

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Well I for one, wouldn't want her to feel chased away from this board by the comments some of you are posting, as in calling her a fool.

Lola...If she's strong enough to deal with a cheatin ass man,knowingly,I would hope she's strong enough to handle people's opinion...As I stated earlier,there's really NO other way to put it...You gotta call a spade a spade!...She's the one that put her buisness out there so she gotta roll with the punches.

Tammy

Jul 15th, 2008 - 5:39 AM

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All I can say is what has been said in this Forum is nothing compared to what was said on N.com.

Mike in NH

Jul 15th, 2008 - 8:00 AM

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Well perhaps I miss spoke but it's hard for me to have sympathy after seeing the renta-dreads and hookers upon the beach and the folks that use there services. Every tourist leaves a little something behined weather it be money , bling or a disease.When I was a younger man I was quilty of the above but things have changed alot since 1980 on the rock.

Marko

Jul 16th, 2008 - 1:43 PM

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since mi arrived in FL 8 years ago Tammy... it has always been densely populated....
Pinellas County is the second most populated county in the USA, of course Manhattan is number uno....

mi wish it was more like Negril and mi have been told that back in the 60's and 70's St Petersburg beach was just like Negril...

well good luck to Mimi if she hanging with the same Robert.....
sounds like she's her own worst enemy eh.....

about the only way to get out of those situations in Negril is not to go back to Negril.......
and if you do go back to Negril dem won't leave you alone if dem find you......
dem can make life miserable for you too down der.....

dis Robert guy will eventually wear off of Mimi......
one way or another.....
mi think Robert has more fish to fry anyways.....

Saturday mi land.....lawd of mercy.......can hardly believe it mon......

Cool Runnings,
Marko

likkle red

Jul 18th, 2008 - 12:40 PM

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Well I for one, wouldn't want her to feel chased away from this board by the comments some of you are posting, as in calling her a fool. Maybe she is, maybe not. I am interested in hearing about it from her, since she is the only one who really knows.

very well stated Lola. I agree with her being the only one who knows what is truely going on with her life....as we all control our own destiny and our relationships. I hope Mimi is not chased off the board.

Suz

Jul 18th, 2008 - 2:08 PM

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Well said, Little Red - No one else can judge someone's situation without walking in their shoes, and affairs of the heart are a tricky one.

I wish Mimi nothing but the best and hope she finds it - couples work through infidelity every day - it is their choice to make, and no one else's to judge

Lola

Jul 20th, 2008 - 9:58 AM

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I recall she said something about it being ok to date others while theirs was still a long distance relationship.

Nikki

Jul 23rd, 2008 - 8:20 AM

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"No one else can judge someone's situation without walking in their shoes, and affairs of the heart are a tricky one."

But you can form an opinion by what you see and what is told to you like we have done and if that's "judging" then Oh well...True affairs of the heart are tricky,that's why one should use a little brain with it.

I was never one to find out things the hard way...I've always learned from others mistakes...Not to say I haven't gotten into minor mishaps,but I DEFINITELY didn't stay in them and I was very young at the times...It all goes back to people do to you what you ALLOW and IMO,any woman that stays with a man that has betrayed them in any way is STUPID!

Winni

Jul 23rd, 2008 - 10:06 AM

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Being self righteous is just as bad as being stupid.

jaith

Jul 23rd, 2008 - 12:17 PM

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waaaaiiiieeeee....

(((winni)))

Winni

Jul 23rd, 2008 - 1:19 PM

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Hi Jaithy!!! Long time....

hmmmmm!

Jul 24th, 2008 - 5:02 AM

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well said Winni!